An
e-mail-interview with Hüseyin Bahri Alptekin
Questions:
Raimund Minichbauer
I
would like to start with state cultural policy. What will be the main
developments (in general and especially concerning the field of
contemporary visual arts) in Turkey on national and regional levels
until 2015? And how will it deal with regional disparities within
Turkey itself?
I think we have to skip anything about the state's cultural policy in Turkey. We have never had one and we won't ever have one either, which benefits contemporary arts, especially the visual arts. This is due to the monopolist state tradition and the government’s power strategies, and by the same token this extends to dealing with regional disparities within Turkey itself as well. The state works with the artists it thinks are appropriate representatives of the country - artists who work with conventional strategies, coming from modernistic tradition, academics, state oriented sculpturers and painters who produce "beautiful art, modern art" - and that is the beginning and the end of it.
However, the state has supported some bilateral international projects. But the state doesn't even support the Istanbul or Ankara art scene, never mind the other regions. Some of the artists close to the state’s policies and to the government in power have always been supported, but that is another ‘ontology’ and we are not talking about macramé, right?
What
is the situation concerning the influence of private and corporate
sponsors on the arts scene today, and what could be future
developments?
The
actual situation concerning the influence of private and corporate
sponsors on the arts scene is improving somewhat, but it is still
fairly minimalist in terms of full support. The support they offer is
always conditional. The support is quite subjective, arbitrary,
capricious as well as pragmatic and random. It can be offered but
also it can be abandoned, withdrawn without any specific reason, and
there is no sponsor policy or ethics.
We never know what future
developments there might be. If there is an economic crisis this in
turn causes a cultural crisis, a cultural crisis causes social
crisis and paranoia, and in that case we have to forget about art.
Hostility towards art then emerges (then art becomes the symptom of
the loss, they are reluctant to support it when there is economic
crisis). The media have always supported art in terms of sponsor
priorities and their own local interests rather than addressing
global issues. Even globalism is structured in the sense that we are
a closed, introverted and basically feudal culture. The rich support
the rich, the poor are pragmatic ...
Although private and
corporate sponsors have been slow in this regard, they are gradually
becoming aware of the global, international and ideological paradigm
of contemporary art and its role and how this is linked to cultural
policies, European Union Policies. They are aware of the emerging
power of art within the media as a tool of communication. It is a
paradoxical but a hopeful sign for the future. On the other hand,
global capitalism tends to appropriate sub-cultures, pop-cultures and
other marginal aspects of urban life that contemporary art best
represents, engages with and participates in. In that sense,
sponsorship is both intelligent and opportunist. I believe there will
be more support for art in the future. It is in their interest.
Turkey’s
position in the international arts world has been shaped by
institutions like the Istanbul Biennial. How do you imagine that this
position will develop within the next decade?
It is quite true that Turkey's position in the international art scene has been shaped by Istanbul Biennial as the major institution. The peak was the ‘92 Biennial. The Biennial has been structured in such a way that it has attracted international interest in Istanbul and even to other regions such as the Balkans, Russia, South-east Europe, etc. for the first time. The Biennials that followed ‘92 with the introduction of foreign curators and with the involvement of the international professional art crowd has played a big role and so step by step Istanbul has attracted more and more international attention with its exotic ambiance and its emerging artists. I believe that the Istanbul Biennial, whatever its structure is, will become one of the important institutions with a traditional international perspective just like the Film, Music, Jazz and Theater Festivals - all organized by IKSV (Istanbul Art and Culture Foundation), a private foundation supported by public funding and sponsorship. What is a traditional international perspective in this context? Up to now, i.e. during the last 10 years, there have been a lot more music and film festivals apart from those organized by the Istanbul Art and Culture Foundation. There will be more contemporary art events in the next decade. In the last five years Project 4L and the Platform Contemporary Art Center have become important institutions in the contemporary visual arts scene. The latter is the only institution in Istanbul internationally recognized as an art center, archive and international residency. Meanwhile, since 2000 there have also been a few artists running collective projects, marginal networks and non-governmental art organizations, that worked without any financial support, just individual initiative and solidarity, collecting rent from friends and so on. Some have collapsed due to the lack of financial support, some have lost motivation and energy, some have given up the struggle and shifted to incorporate themselves within more powerful and glamorous networks. After all, the international atmosphere and ambiance of the Biennial has stimulated alternative structures, events, artist alliances and publications in general. Unfortunately the Sea Elephant Travel Agency, an artists’ collective known locally as "loft," which I initiated in 2000, has also ended and ceased regular activities in 2004 due to financial problems and local difficulties. The project continues with some international collaborative projects.
What
are the developments and experiences with co-operation between the
European Union and Turkey in the field of cultural policy and funding
programs? What will happen in the future?
Co-operation
between the European Union and Turkey in the field of cultural policy
and funding programs have developed quite rapidly in the last couple
of years with residency programs, international exhibitions, symposia
and conferences. There is a great deal of action in the contemporary
art scene in Istanbul and even in the provinces of Turkey, especially
in Diyarbakir and Izmir. To comment on that miraculously rapid
acceleration is complex in many different senses. Probably there are
similarities and a kind of raison d’etre within the Balkan region.
Mainly it goes along with the ideological and political strategies of
the European cultural policy decision-makers. They choose different
regions at different times, such as first the Balkans, then Bosnia,
Albania, Kosovo, the Caucasian region (Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan,
even Chechnya), and Turkey as a candidate country and the
geographical region where Kurdish people live, especially Diyarbakir
and the region around it. Actually for the last ten years an abstract
geographical area called the South-East European region has been
invented, but frankly no high-level projects have been realized.
The decision to invent this region is not only based on economic,
geographical and political concerns but is also due to a need for
‘otherness’ in relation to Europe. Thus the need for the exotic,
folkloric, ethnic, marginal, peripheral frames cultural policies too.
The issue of the ‘other’ and ‘otherness’ has been discussed
for the last fifteen years and become a cliché, but the
problem still exists. Some institutions have strategically
manipulated some interesting projects proposed by artists of the
region, because they benefit their administrative needs to spend
their budgets instead of realizing projects that would develop the
dynamics of the art in the region. Of course the mobility of the
artists and intellectuals of the region provided within the framework
is extremely important, unless it results in the repetitive
circulation of the same people through the art circuit, in a kind of
symposia tourism. You are invited to attend the discussions, to have
some fun, but it hardly ever turns into the possibility of strong
individual expression. Instead it results merely in useless workshops
and endless repetitive group shows. The symposia and forums usually
end without any post-production or evidence of future activity. The
same organizations repeat exactly the same meetings in exactly the
same places. Networks are announced and proposed but remain
inaccessible due to their administrative and bureaucratic structures
and jargon. This approach does not really stimulate artists to
realize their creative projects. Basically, their ideas and creative
proposals remain suspended in the air and are sometimes used by the
administration to meet other financial interests.
My experience of
attending such forums has sometimes ended up with my feeling great
frustration and even depression. One of my projects with the Sea
Elephant Travel Agency co-operative, entitled "Jules Verne and
the Black Sea"1,
was presented on several occasions in various symposia and forums,
but in the end was appropriated without permission, manipulated and
actually taken away from me so that it could be used to apply for
European Union funding. It was selected and given a huge budget. I
have been reduced to being an observer of my own project that has
become removed from the original idea, now involves different
partners and has been given a different focus, simply to spend the
money on worthless events. Unfortunately, that happened three years
ago and it still continues. All our efforts with our regional
partners, together with five years investment of energy and vision,
have been for nothing. I know that there is no copyright on ideas,
and in any event a long process of legal intervention will kill an
artist’s motivation. It has all taken a lot of energy and has
unfortunately disrupted what had been a potentially fruitful project.
This is just an extreme personal experience, and some other
more positive programs have co-operated with other artists and
events. But it all goes through more and more institutionalized
frameworks. Unfortunately, artist initiatives and collectives
can’t maintain their continuity and motivation. They are basically
conceived as marginal, since they do not fit within the bilateral
framework. Many individual initiatives just fade away.
I am quite
optimistic about future developments. First of all there are a lot of
artists from abroad in residencies in Istanbul. There are many
European institutions and curators visiting the city, living here for
long periods, working here and realizing various collaborative
projects with local artists. They have the opportunity to investigate
various local dynamics, alternative structures and gain knowledge of
the contemporary art scene, its history and context. Residency
programs in both directions are extremely important, especially the
artists visiting from abroad. They live here and in the regions, and
when they go back they can say more about the situation here.
For
the future development there are different dynamics that are already
advancing quite rapidly. A lot of young artists have the chance to
show abroad and they have vast possibilities for mobility as artists
through residencies and projects. Networks and communication are
easily accessible to everybody by means of Internet. There are a lot
of artists now who live in Istanbul, and they also promote different
aspects of the local artist scene and vision. Since Turkey is a
candidate for the European Union, this also provides a great
transparency and interaction for the local artists
here.
Unfortunately, some non-governmental initiatives remain on a
low-profile level. Strangely most of these attempts focus on the
search for funding to address local social issues and conflicts
rather than for ambitious and visionary artistic projects.
Academics
also have a tendency to use their status and power in an elitist
manner. Universities should be unconditional for artists in a
Derridian sense. The academy requires local stability rather than
mobility and international exchanges.
For the future, the best way
forward is to have a European presence here on the ground in Turkey
rather than through an abstract conceptual and intellectual
ready-made approach.
Which
new counter-strategies are being developed in the cultural field that
could serve as future models concerning new forms of
self-organization and transnational co-operation; new strategies by
feminist, anti-racist, Kurdish, etc. groups, finding new ways to
counteract logics of permanent co-optation of critique through
capitalism?
These counter-strategies tend to be ephemeral and do not last. They are generally opportunist attempts to seek a way out and possibilities to escape. Complaints of discrimination are known to be sympathetically received by the outside world, including Europe. Political, ideological and ethnic issues are more successful gateways than the work itself. That discordant context results in a strange trap for artists. They are expected to be or to produce art that is feminist, anti-racist, Kurdish, etc. Maybe they will end up in certain global contemporary networks and gain mobility and participate in a lot of group exhibitions, but it is within a certain context that is dictated to them. That is the essential risk of this trap. However, this "otherness" is a category shared by both artists and those who commission and fund the art. There are nonetheless some productions that have integrity. Different ontologies do exist, and there are now more possibilities to communicate as there are a lot more networks and cultural platforms.
How will the overall
situation concerning public funding in the field of contemporary
visual arts develop?
The structure of
funding and supporting the projects is hierarchical. One side is
applying, the other is offering; one is proposing, the other is
answering; one is asking, the other is compromising; one is wishing,
the other is negotiating. One is supposed to be such and such and
therefore the applicant claims that he/she is such and such ... One’s
position is controlled and he/she answers to that. One is supposed to
be "the other" ...
That paradigm should be changed in
favor of a critical perspective, which requires a dialogue on
positioning and a discussion of the situation. As art is another kind
of knowledge, the dialogue within cultures and cultural policies
should be firstly based on "sameness," rather than
"otherness". This will avoid notions of a hierarchical
function that leads to ignorance and conflict. Any art event deals
with specific knowledge and the way to reach that knowledge is very
important. It is critical and political, it is an act and that is
also part of the knowledge. Therefore all the perspectives
(curatorial, financial, creative, post-productive, etc.) that
construct the work and knowledge require a vital dialogue. Otherwise
hospitality turns easily and suddenly into hostility and we miss the
knowledge where art resides.
An actual event can be an appropriate
example in this instance. A group exhibition opened on 8th
July 2005 in Berlin, at the Martin Gropius Bau, called "Urban
Realities: Focus Istanbul". This exhibition claims to cover the
faces and perspectives of a city and culture which is a candidate for
membership in the European Union and to valorize the strong emerging
contemporary art scene and its components. The show consists of 40
artists from Istanbul and 40 artists from abroad. Most of them have
mainly worked in Istanbul or on Istanbul, and some of the
non-Istanbul artists who were commissioned to produce work had not
been in Istanbul before. Curators and organizers have claimed that
this is not one of these "national" or "regional"
exhibitions such as a Turkish, Istanbul or Balkan show.
Up to that
point all was fine. In the middle of the process of realizing the
project, some artists had some problems with the structure,
conceptual framework and curatorial and financial aspects of the
project. A flux of e-mailing started among the artists and the
curators, leading to a series of meetings in Istanbul organized among
some of those participating artists from Istanbul. Through that
process of communication or mis-communication, some artists have
withdrawn from the project as well as some Istanbul curators and a
writer.
Unfortunately, the project coordinators, curators and
organizers took this situation as a boycott and didn’t seek a
dialogue to understand the motives for what happened. The reasons
were not taken seriously and were viewed as a form of cultural
rebellion. In fact no collective decision was taken, it was more of a
collective reflex. The withdrawing artists had different individual
reasons for not participating in the project, conceptual, cultural,
ideological, ethical, curatorial and financial reasons. The
participating artists were not considered as individual decision
makers with individual artistic personae, but were seen as part of a
cultural boycott. None of them have received a personal e-mail but
only general ones addressed to all or the same letter with the
address and name changed.
That was not really a collective act and
it could happen to other similar projects with the same problems of a
risky and slippery focus and a discriminatory structure.
Unfortunately, this exploded the project. What was intended as a
friendly project, a hospitality for Istanbul, its culture and its
artists, turned into a situation of cultural hostility, all because
of the missing dialogue between two cultures and a hierarchical
cultural policy. A show is just a show. A show is not just a show.
Edited by Aileen Derieg
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1 The "Jules Verne and the Black Sea" project is based on the "Mutual Realities, Artistic Exchanges, Inter-Regional Solidarity" idea, a boat-lab tracing an imaginary itinerary of Jules Verne in the Black Sea belt (including Moldova and the Caucasian regions) after his novel "Kéreban le Tetu" ("Keraban the Stubborn" in English). The project was borrowed without permission by Appollonia (South-East Cultural Exchanges), based in Strasbourg, France, and an application made to Culture 2000. Once the project was selected for support it was totally changed.